February 5, 2016

An exclusive interview with Tocqueville Fund’s long-time portfolio manager Robert Kleinschmidt. The contrarian value investor explains why commodities are key to the market and what they are telling him now.

WEALTHTRACK Episode #1233; Originally Broadcast on February 5, 2016
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U.S. bears are coming out of hibernation. Despite the fact that the U.S. economy is still chugging along, “slow but solid”, as exclusive WEALTHTRACK guest Ed Hyman described it a few weeks ago, the markets are showing increasing signs of stress.

According to this week’s guest, the signals have been there for months. Contrarian value investor Robert Kleinschmidt has been tracking what he considered to be an unsustainable divergence between the global decline in commodity prices, which signal economic slowdown and world stock market behavior.

Kleinschmidt notes that in the U.S., the majority of stocks in the S&P 500 are already in a bear market, having declined more than 20% from their recent highs.

Were it not for large market cap stocks like McDonalds, AT&T and Google parent,  Alphabet, Inc. the damage in the index itself would be far greater.

It already is in many overseas markets. According to a recent count by Bank of America Merrill Lynch, at least 33 out of 45 major country stock indexes are in bear territory. 

These conditions mean more opportunity for this week’s exclusive guest.

Robert Kleinschmidt is the President, CEO and Chief Investment Officer of Tocqueville Asset Management, a value oriented wealth management firm devoted to capital preservation for its global high-net-worth clients and institutions.

A small portion of its $11 billion in assets is in its Tocqueville mutual fund, which Kleinschmidt has been managing since January of 1992. The fund has delivered average annualized returns of nearly 10% since then, beating the S&P 500 in the process, although it has lagged the market in recent years.

I asked Kleinschmidt why commodity prices, above all other indicators, are key to understanding the global economy and markets, and why he believes that stocks of commodity companies could be at a turning point.

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Have a great weekend and make the week ahead a profitable and productive one.

Best Regards,


Mathews Asia


  • Look at most beaten-up markets, industries and stocks
  • Find highest quality companies or funds in them
  • Battered areas to consider nibbling in:
    • Commodities: metals and mining
    • Emerging markets such as China
    • High-yield bonds: especially energy firms
No Bookshelf titles this week.


  • SPDR S&P Metals and Mining ETF (XME)
  • Price: $14.09 on 2/3/16
  • 52-week range: $11.38 – $30.00

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Exxon Mobil Corporation (XOM)
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Noble Energy Inc (NBL)
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Alphabet Inc A (GOOGL)

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Facebook Inc (FB)
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Amazon.com Inc (AMZN)
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Microsoft Corp (MSFT)
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Alcoa Inc (AA)
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Cameco Corp (CCJ)
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Qualcomm Inc (QCOM)
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